and instead cbs poll gave the debate to paujoe biden. >> falling exchange on medicare and social security. >> medicare and social zuccotti did so much for my own family. we will not jeopardize this program, but we have to save it. >> you are changing the program from a guaranteed benefit. the bottom line is that people have to pay more money out of their pocket. >> prior to the the vice- presidential debate, the question, should obama supporters start freaking out to? [laughter] did the vice-president head of the freak out? >> i think he probably did. for the days, for the people who were cheering him on, he did with the president did not do the week before. he answered everything that bryant had to say -- that ryan had to say. if he had not indulge in that small a time, the biden tick, you would have said that he had walked the floor with paul ryan. >> pick a winner. >> if you read the transcript, it was a draw. if you heard it on the radio, biden won. if you watched it on tv, biden lost. if you heard it on talking points, it was about even. you heard it on the raider, joe biden was in c